that's what the minutes rethreated. you know the minutes have basically said that many participants, there are many participants were concerned about the negative aspects of quantitative easing. jim has mentioned in speeches, and prance earlier today, what some of those negative aspects are. you know, they have to do with the balance sheet of the fed, the potential for losses going forward, the accumulation of a large amount of treasuries, relative to the private market, et cetera, et cetera. and so you know, there are negative aspects to all of this, but many participants are beginning to see. we question from your side, jim knows more, we question from our side whether those many participants are, you know, less than the what we call the three musket rooers. you know, as chairman bernanke, janet yellen, and bill dudley we think that they dominate the discussion, but, you know, certainly many participants are becoming concerned and we should watch that going forward. >> the markets are forward looking. you're still saying end of the year and then we'll see.